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November 04, 2009

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nate

I think the price tag of vBlocks ranging from $1M to $6M starting price will make those who buy it struggle to compete against the Microsoft's, the Google's, the Amazon's of the world and other cloud players. When your coughing up $6M for 64 blades and a V-MAX that's just alarmingly obscene. Sure there will be discounts but still..

Web pricing for 4 HP cClass blade chassis with 192 cores each and 1TB of memory runs about $600k(that's 64 blades). That is online web pricing, no talking direct to HP no special discounts or whatever, that's what I can buy it with right now on my credit card..if I had a card that had a limit that high anyways.

That's with 10GbE virtualconnect and 4Gb fiber virtual connect(I don't need 8Gb). I'll take that over FCoE any day.

Toss in some 3PAR storage on top of that, I mean it's almost comical what they are advertising the pricing at.

posted more on this on my blog last night http://www.techopsguys.com/2009/11/03/the-new-ciscoemcvmware-alliance-the-vblock/

The whole integration thing to me is a joke at this level. I mean your talking about 64 servers, paying that high of a price I don't care if the thing is able to drive itself to my data center and wire itself automatically. ITS ONLY 64 SERVERS. They must be selling stuff to inbred monkeys to need to pay that much for hand holding. With no integration at all we can have a new vmware box built and configured in as little as 30 minutes(about half of that is configuring vmware itself).

Now if your talking about hundreds or thousands maybe it makes more sense, but also consider the advertised price tag of those 64-server vBlocks starting at $6M, then ask yourself how important is that tight integration really worth?

And I bet if it was a large number of servers I could nail something down with the HP cClass and virtualconnect with the MAC/WWN dynamic mapping and 3PAR virtual copy to configure the systems just as fast, if not faster(after spending a bit of time to get the first iteration of it operational). Right now I spend 30 minutes because I can spend 30 minutes, it's not a big deal.

I'd rather have more servers, more storage, and take the rest in a higher paycheck thank you very much.

It's a scam, and I feel sorry for anybody who falls for it, oh wait, no I don't. It just makes people like me that much more valuable in the world.

nate

Wanted to clarify a bit that $600k price tag for the HP is for 64 blades, so a total of 768 real CPU cores(no hyperthreading), and 4TB of memory, which can fit in 1 rack(4 chassis = 40U total)

How many VMs you think that can hold? How much fancy management stuff are you willing to pay for to support 1 rack of equipment? Keep in mind much of the management beyond the hardware level is all handled in vmware land.

At one point I heard a claim that VMware's average customer gets something like 8 VMs per core, so that equates to 6144 VMs.

marc farley

Great blog post, analyzing the costs of vBlock. We are always looking for ways to make provisioning easier and we'll have some new news on that shortly - but you probably know about that already. :)

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