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April 24, 2009

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John F.

Hi Marc,

Interesting read. What did the IO patterns really look like. What's the read/write mix in the workload? How much of the improvement over a straight Oracle on RAID 5 can be attributed to ARM, and how much can be attributed to 3Par RAID ASICs and/or chunklets?

I do like the way that scaling isn't linear; the degradation at 3 spindles is 9% and by 9 spindles is 19%; nice. Someone's doing something right. How large can the RAID groups be? How does rebuild time impact performance and how does that scale with RAID group size? Inquiring minds want to know.

John F.

marc farley

Thanks John, I'll try to talk to some of the people involved in the tests to get more details for you. It was a joint white paper, but I think I can dig up most of them.

nate

Hey Marc - I was wondering if you guys would ever consider performing some SPC benchmarks with RAID 5 along side RAID 10 just to show the performance of the system.

I was just reviewing the latest F400 SPC results, and comparing against the Pillar results released a few months ago where the Pillar CEO(I think?) tried to slam 3PAR for having such an expensive solution(T800). Doing a cost per usable TB, the F400 not only trounces the Pillar configuration which is almost 3x more expensive($57k/TB vs $20k/TB), but also in performance as well(93k IOPS vs 64k IOPS). It may be higher still since the Pillar pricing assumes a 35% discount, I'm not sure what sort, if any discount the F400 pricing in the SPC report assumes.

There's a lot of folks out there(like me!) who use RAID 5.

On that note any idea why SPC benchmarks can't throw in the executive summary a quick cost per usable TB number? Sure it's a performance benchmark but it takes all of 10 seconds to do the math, and I think it is an important data point.

marc farley

Hi Nate,

As you know, almost all our benchmarks are run with RAID 10 to get the maximum results, but I agree it would be good to have RAID 5 results too. Its been discussed internally and its something we know people want to see. As far as posting the SPC cost per usable TB - I'm checking in with our benchmarking people. I agree it would be useful to have a $ per ASU number posted under the $ per IOPS.

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